Privacy? Some Illuminating Quotes of Web Marketers and Advertisers

Privacy?
Some Illuminating Quotes of
Web Marketers and Advertisers

Watching You Targeting You: Personal Ads If You Go Along

Source: Transcript of PBS Frontline, "High Stakes in Cyberspace"


Watching You
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TERRY MYERSON, Interse Corporation: [Interse sells software that measure consumer behavior at Web sites.]

"As the user interacts with this, we not only can watch them to see what they're looking at, but how they're moving through your sales cycle.

"If they're reading your company overview information before they get to product information, what products is the company overview driving them to look at?

"We can watch--we can watch this happen in real time, if we want.

"We can watch these consumers move through your information.

"If you connect through America Online, America Online knows everything about you--or Prodigy or CompuServe.

"Those guys know basically everything.

"When you register, you're specifying your income, how many children you have, whether you have pets, what kind of home you live in.

"So those traditional online services know anything and everything about you."


Targeting You: Personal Ads
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MICHAEL TROIANO, Ogilvy & Mather: [Troiano is head of Ogilvy's interactive marketing group.]

"It's a way for me to target not by proxy, not by saying 'men 35 to 54 who live in these zip codes,' but by individuals.

"I know someone is interested in what I have to sell.

"They have identified themselves as being interested in it. That's the value.

"Today the consumer has to self-identify and there may be ways around that.

"Once we figure out how to do it with the technology, we'll have to address the ethical issue of how much are our consumers comfortable with us finding out?"

ROBERT KRULWICH: [Frontline Interviewer]

"The privacy question gets a little more complicated because the ads that you will get on these systems will be different from the ads that we get today."

YALE BROWN: [a creator of Bell Atlantic's Stargazer interactive TV project]

"You're going to get a customized commercial. You will get a commercial, an advertisement that is geared specifically to who you are, where you are in terms of location, in terms of navigation and maybe things like time of day."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"...Yale Brown and Matt Walker were part of the team that created the computer software for Stargazer [an interactive television system developed and being tested by Bell Atlantic].

"Consumers, they decided, were Stargazer's most valuable product.

"So they've created a new program that sends specific ads to specific customers."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"So the mass audience gets different advertisements. Different groups get different ads at the same time."

YALE BROWN:

"At the same time."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"And the machine knows who's watching."

YALE BROWN:

"That's correct."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"And the machine sends the right ad to the right people."

YALE BROWN:

"That's right."



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RAY SMITH [CEO, Bell Atlantic]:

"For doctors, they're going to get Mercedes Benz ads, right? And it's going to be very much more targeted."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"You mean if you're a doctor--"

RAY SMITH:

"Right."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"--and I'm a physical education instructor at a high school in Glen Oaks, Illinois--"

RAY SMITH:

"Right."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"We're both watching the same show--"

RAY SMITH:

"You'll get a different commercial."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"Really?"

RAY SMITH:

"Yes. Not only will you be able to get a different commercial and one that would be more adapted to--to your needs, but you're more likely to buy it.

"Remember, this is interactive. You're going to be able to click on and buy it right there.

"So the impulse buy in the commercial will change the commercial form, as well.

"A button will appear with a little icon on the screen. You know, you sort of click on it and it gives you the information about the purchase of whatever it is."


If You Go Along
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ROBERT KRULWICH: [Frontline Interviewer]

"If things go the way you're planning, somewhere in your computer you'll know the movies I've seen.

"Somewhere in your computer you'll know the clothes I bought.

"Somewhere in your computer you'll know the ads that I've seen and how long I've lingered.

"You will know more about me than even the government, than maybe even my wife.

"Shouldn't I be a little frightened to let you have so much information?"

RAY SMITH: [CEO, Bell Atlantic]

"If you're frightened to have this information in some sort of data base, then you can have it removed. You will have total control of all of the information that comes out of your purchases."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"If everybody decides to be really private about their advertising viewing, then you have got nothing here."

MATT WALKER: [a creator of Stargazer, Bell Atlantic's interactive TV project]

"Exactly."

YALE BROWN: [also a creator of Stargazer]

"That's true."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"So you have to hope that people are going to be 'Hmmm' about their privacy, that they'll let people watch them."

YALE BROWN:

"Privacy is an issue that has to be handled by the people who are producing the advertisements, who are running the networks and are running the government."

ROBERT KRULWICH:

"But in the meantime, you'll reach as many as you possibly can, under the circumstances."

MATT WALKER:

"Sure."

YALE BROWN:

"That's business on the information highway."


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